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Hi All

I have not long purchased an S3. I since purchasing I have had a couple of niggles that I thought it might be good to take it to my local Audi dealter to get them to have a look at.

1) Traction Control light was always on. Then the ABS light is now constantly on as well as. I know the two systems are linked and could be causing an issue.

2) Central Remote locking packed up and could only open this with the Key on the drviers side door.

3) the steering was to the left all the time. So I naturally thought get the tracking sorted.

4) Brake warning sensor light came up every now and then while driving.

I thought that the first would be the most problem causing issue and might have to have a sensor or two replaced, the rest should be prettty straight forward to fix for the dealership.

WRONG!

I turned back up at the dealers this afternoon to be greeted with a MASSIVE list of faults!

1) Front Subframe Bent

2) Near Side Front Lower suspension arm bent

3) Off Side Lower Suspension bush broken

4) Noise from the Cam Belt Area (could mean anything!)

5) Near Side ABS Sensor Faulty

6) Both Rear Suspension Springs broken

7) Tranverse Sensor faulty

8) Brake Ligh Switch Faulty

9) Alarm Horn full of water

ARRGGHHH!

Now I know that there are a few issues to deal with here, but I am thinking that some of these faults could be solved by just one of the parts being replaced. If the ABS sensor is faulty then would that not make the Traction Control warning light come on and then when they diagnose the issue the VAG Computermebob would come up there was a sensor reading from the Transverse Sensor, not that it needs replacing?! Also could a faulty brake light switch not make all of these be true?

To have to replace all of them sounds excessive?

Getting onto the Subframe on the front, does anyone know how hard a job this is and what a typical cost of the subframe. I have done a few look ups on this and some say that it's not a massive job? Audi are saying that the frame is bent because of accident damage which would concour with the bent front suspension arm and knackered bush. It sounds like a nightmare to me being not mechanical in any way, but would like an idea of how long this might take to get sorted.

Audi are going to quote me for all this work but I am expecting an estimate for all this lot to be done by them for about £2000 !

I am going to speak to my local garage about the work and what they think but I think some of this work they are saying needs doing may not acutally be needed.

Any advise would be happily received.

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Hi mate. I feel for your woes. I'm afraid it will all have to be changed. I'd try and pic a subframe up 2nd hand as it will be soooo much cheaper. It's had a crash mate. For it to do that damage he might of hit a curb at speed. And that would damage the subframe, suspension arms, tracking arms etc.
 

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Sorry for the multiple posts but I'm on my phone and can't make paragraphs!
The transverse sensor I think is a crash sensor for the airbag. And a faulty abs sensor, will throw both abs and traction control lights onto the dash. It could of got damaged in the accident to the front bu they are common faults too.
 

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My advice would be to get the lot done non audi dealer. For that money! None of those jobs are needing a audi tech. Springs on the back, suspension arms, abs sensor (ps it could be the wiring either) can be done alot cheaper by a Vw / audi specialist.
 

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Just re read your post. The brake light switch is so common. It's ?10 odd at the dealers. And it's not causing any other fault. apart from a flashing glow plug light sometimes
 

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If it was trade damian I know where I'd take it don't you.
 

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Hi all

Thanks for the posts.

I agree that I should get the work done by a local garage and not a dealer.

I got the car from a trader in Autotrader who is based in Manchester. I am not sure that they were aware of the faults on this.

I dont think that I have recaluse on it anyway, surley this would have been down to me to get this all checked over before I purchased it or do you think this amount of damage should have been correced by the trader?

Thanks for the advise. I've looked around today for a Front Subframe but cant find anything at the moment so will keep on looking.

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Blimey, if it's a trader, take it back. Regardless of it being used, it still needs to be fit for purpose and safe. Sounds to me like it's neither of those! How long ago did you buy it? Best advice is to speak to trading standards.
 

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Hi Guys

Thanks for the advise again. I will speak to trading standards on Monday and see what they think. It was not a dealer with a shiny forcourt but it was their living buying and selling cars and I have an official invoice from him etc..

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Sounds like a health hazard they should screw him for selling that i would have thought if he knew about it,is it a new S3 ?
 

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Hi there

No, it's a "W" registered car, but still cost me £5k+, it's a shame really because I love the car and it's just what I was looking for. Ticked all the right boxes!
 

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Even if its not a proper dealership, take the Audi report to him and say you want your money back because its not safe / fit for its purpose.

Its true he might not of known that when he bought the car, but at the end of the day it doesnt matter if he had it in his possession for a day or a year. He should make sure the car being sent out is safe.
 

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I am going to speak to Trading Standards this week and see what they think. Will keep you updated on how things are going.
 

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Even if he agreed to help out with fixing the problems. Hope it goes well!
 

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Hi All

I have been to my very friendly local garage today. He put it up on his ramp and we looked over the issues that were picked up by Audi.

We could see where the damage is on the Subframe. It looks like its taken a wack for sure. One of the mountings on the passerger side back end of the frame is twisted and broken. It looks like someone has hammered it out to get a fixing bolt back into it. Also there as some marks on the passenger side front at the very bottom of the bumper on the part that curves around to the wheel arch. Some significant scrapes. So looks like something has happened there.

One of the other faults that the Audi dealer picked up, the Back springs broken, these appear fine.

I called trading standards today and they have said that there is a way to try to make a claim to the dealer where by the "faults that are with the car are not resonalble for the age of the car" or somthing along those lines.

I have booked the car into the garage to get the cambelt issues looked at as no matter what I am going to keep the car and see if I can claim off the dealier I go it from the cost of getting the subframe and suspension arms replaced.

The rest of the issues I will deal with, but I think the subframe and suspension is somthing that needs to be addressed by the dealer.
 

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Exactly that damage has nothing to do with the age of the car. Those rear springs might still be knackered as they may be broken at the very top or have a serious crack.
 
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