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Some heavy leaning going on in the second picture, I take it you were giving it some then
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I was certainly giving it some. I think that was about 110mph on the apex, from and entry of around 135mph - even in the wet! [;)] Unfortunately, the photographer kept missing me - the first two sessions of the day he completely missed me. When I spoke to him later, he said he had to keep repostitioning his camera, because wheras everyone else were following like sheep on the same line, I kept going around the outside, on some really blinding corners, and many of the fellow attendees thought that mine was actually an RS4!

[quote user="Tabs"]Which track is that then?[/quote]

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Any chance of a mini review?

Nice to know what the B6 S4 is like in both daily drive mode and also when giving it the beans!

I'm tempted to treat myself to a silver tiptronic avant around xmas/new year. The silver appeals as i've been car-jacked before and don't want a car that looks too overtly performance, and this colour looks a little bit more low key.

I'd keep my Golf 150PD and have this as a weekender.
 

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[quote user="Gary Cundliffe"]Any chance of a mini review?[/quote]

Anything in particular which you want to know?

[quote user="Gary Cundliffe"]Nice to know what the B6 S4 is like in both daily drive mode and also when giving it the beans![/quote]

OK, I'm sure you all know the Audi "ethos" behind the "S" models. They are designed to be a wolf in sheeps clothing, and not sacrifice any of the luxuries of say an SE model. That means fully electric seats, seat memory (option), usual choice of audio and nav equipment. The sporting pretentions are very much "unseen but very capable", if you get my drift, but are not as "hardcore" as Audi RS models.

For daily use, the B6 S4 will be just like any other B6 A4 - supremely well finished, a pleasure to be in the cabin, relatively quite and restrained. You could commute from one end of the country to the other, and still feel as fresh as a daisy. When you do open her up, the V8 communicates its passion very clearly to both the driver/passengers, and those on the outside. Of course it is very fast, but it handles very well indeed, considering the weight of the car. At low speeds on rough roads, the ride can be a little harsh, but it is no worse than similar cars running on 18" alloys, and even on very rough roads, your fillings should still remain intact. The engine itself has torque by the bucket-load, with most of it being available from 1,100rpm. At the other end of the rev range, max power is at 7,000rpm, and isnt afraid of the red line.

Traction. Torsen quattro permanent four wheel drive. Needs no further comment. It will out handle and out drag the old M3, even in the dry. In the wet, bye-bye M3, and in snow - it really is superb.

Brakes. OK. Track days really show up their weakness. Brake fade is a common problem on track days, even with relatively new pads. And if the car is fully laden, and driven at very high speeds, such as on Autobahns/Autoroutes, or in mountainous passes, then unless the pads have some serious meat left on them, they will also fade - but obviously it is easier to manage on "normal" roads rather than a race track. Front brake pads on the S4 will really need changing when there is still around 5mm of friction lining remaining, and this does help no end.

Running costs. It is a group 20a car, so insurance wont be cheap. VED (tax disc) is in the highest band, so that will be £400 next year! The V8 is a thirsty beast, more thirsty than my current RS4 - becuause, dispite what some of the Yankie sites say, the B6 (and B7) S4 does not, and never did have FSI - it uses good ole manifold sited injectors. V-max (where the law permits) will give just 6.7mpg, and driven sedately on a run, 22-23mpg should be achieveable, and around town about 17mpg. Drive it like a granny, and 26mpg will be about the best you can get. 98RON super unleaded is recommended for best performance.

Servicing costs. Par for any other Audi A4. Downsides - it needs 8 spark plugs instead of 6 or 4, though if you purchase them yourself, you can get them for around £4.50 each (compared to Audis £10 each). The sump takes a lot of oil - 9.0 litres, so again, supply the stealer with your own oil at a better price (and if you change your own oil, you will need a bigger drain pan). Upsides - no cam belts to worry about or change, as it has chain driven cams.

Known problems. Just like on all big high performance Audis, if the clutch is abused in any way, then their life is dramatically reduced. The weak front suspension link joints which plagued earlier models (B5 A4 range) are virtually unheard of on the B6 S4 - indeed, the B6 S4 proved so good, it became the standard fit on the entire B7 range. Oil level sensors (common on all VAG cars) can be problematic, so learn to use the dipstic regularly. Level sensors (for the Xenon headlams) can be troublesome, but again, these can be affected on all cars, and not just VAG cars. The standard Avus III alloys can be a real pain to keep clean. Early (2003 & early 04) B6 S4s were supplied with standard load tyres (235/40 ZR18 91Y), but these were really inadequate, especially on the front - so later ones were factory supplied with "Extra Load" tyres - with a 95 load index - so make sure that any S4 you look at has the 95Y tyres. Coinciding with the standard load tyres, the standard "sticker" tyre pressures were also inadequate, and 2004 models had a revised sticker, showing increased tyre pressures (along with listing Extra Load tyres).

[quote user="Gary Cundliffe"]I'm tempted to treat myself to a silver tiptronic avant around xmas/new year. The silver appeals as i've been car-jacked before and don't want a car that looks too overtly performance, and this colour looks a little bit more low key.[/quote]

A wise choice. An S4 in light silver metallic must be one of the ultimate "Q cars". To non-Audi enthusiasts eyes, a silver S4 looks just like any other A4. De-badge the boot and front grille for extra safety.

And a Tracker is a very wise investment.

[quote user="Gary Cundliffe"]I'd keep my Golf 150PD and have this as a weekender.[/quote]

Sensible, if you can afford or have the space to own two cars.

HTH
 

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Nice to see a car like that driven how it should be [:)]

So have you moved onto the RS4 now? Have you had chance to give it a similar driving on a track too?
 

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Cheers for the write up, certainly think thats the motor for me- discreet yet powerful!

Also with the road tax, fuel prices and current economic climate the price falls are making them a cracking buy.
 

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I've seen them as low as £10.5k - they are a nice smooth car, i've only had chance to drive a couple and they are un-nervingly quick. You dont realise until you look at the speedo just how fast your going! I'm still a big fan of the B5, they are becoming rediculously cheap for the kind of car they are and have a lot of tuning potential. However, they dont compare to the noise and the build of the B6's and 7's.
 

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The B5 2.7T is in giveway territory, and currently the cheapest B6 4.2V8 is around the 10k mark. And I can see falls in value as we approach the end of the year.
 

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Great post,

looking into chopping the cab in for one as we speak! tempted to wait until next year to see if prices fall even more. Pound for pound this is almost supercar performance for not a lot of cash.

Mpg is a little worse that my cab but on the whole its not that much different.

Hoping for something nogaro blue, manual (one carefull lady owner).
 

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[quote user="Gary Cundliffe"]

Plenty in the autotrader and on Pistonheads-get your money spent.

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Got my eye on this one http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/689097.htm

Kerry doesn't like the recaros though. Hoping for champagne or black.

Personally I quite like it. Just need to sell my cab first. The price is up for negotiation.

I must be mad given the current ecconomic state.....
 

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I agree with Gary, get it done [:)]

I'd try and get one with satnav and bose if possible. I got a bit giddy and phoned the insurance company about one for sh*ts and giggles, wasnt as bad as i was expecting! Argh why is it so tempting! where's that number for the Halifax! lol
 

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Still looking and its going to happen. Im not in any rush but im pretty gutted a black one sold today. Champagne interior, white steering wheel (very sophisticated imo) and show an shine winning paintwork with 45k on the clock all for 12.5k.

Looked into the tax and its the same as the cab, the government scrapped the pre 06 tax exemption rule, they decided..... like all conmen that they had done themselves out of a tasty slice of money and changed the rules to suit.

here are the costings............

Date of Registration6 Months12 MonthsBandCO2 (g/km)
1 Apr 2003 - 25 Oct 2004£115.50£210.00F321-322

Rates effective from April 2009​

Date of Registration6 Months12 MonthsBandCO2 (g/km)
1 Apr 2003 - 25 Oct 2004£165.00£300.00K321-322

Rates effective from April 2010​

Date of Registration6 Months12 MonthsBandCO2 (g/km)
1 Apr 2003 - 25 Oct 2004£250.25£455.00M321-322

Steve.
 
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